Antonio
As you know I have been using FiveWin for many years and have found it to be a remarkable language. All the new Programmers who enjoy 'writing code' find FiveWin to be one of the MOST powerful languages to connect to any RDMS ( sql server, oracle, ms access ), connect to any OLE program, device or application and the use of Object Oriented Classes and Methods.
I want you to notice I made a clear distinction above by using the phrase 'writing code' and NOT some button pushing IDE brainless ( so called ) programmer. When I left State government several years ago the CIO was absolutely 'frantic' because the existing programmers in the Agency only knew Visual Studio. I surrendered all my programs and there was not a single 'coder' in the Entire Agency, except one. The Visual Studio folks have 'no clue' .. could not understand the syntax, not even the ability to follow simple logic. ..
True Story ... One of my largest Enterprise applications ( vehicle fleet management ) needed a coding change to allow more than one vehicle reservation per day. There wasn't a single Visual Studio programmer that could understand my code .. but fortunate for the Agency there was an Oracle Forms programmer that worked ( not for the centralized IT ) but in a separate deputy area who was also a long time 'coder' that was asked as a 'last resort' to see if he could make the appropriate changes to my program.
As it turned out this 'coder' was able to read the programming flow and understand where to look for and make the ( minor ) changes to my code. I was told he had the changes made and re-compiled with in a day, where all the other IDE programmers were absolutely clueless.
The reason I bring up this distinction is because our young programmers are being schooled in Visual Studio and dot net to create C# ( web ) applications. Historically, what I have seen with C#, Microsoft ASP.NET MVC framework is that Visual Studio may make it easy to create SIMPLE web applications, but when you throw in just a few business rules .. the IDE crowd just never can seem to get anything done or completed. The organization burns through multiple programmers, then adds Business Analyst's and then Project Managers to manage the sprawling project, and before long you have a simple app that should have taken six months or less to create, turn into multi-million dollar fiasco that ends up with nothing but overwhelming money spent and at the end of the day a pile of "_rap" for code.
From the Internet :
[b:329qihb0][color=#FF0000:329qihb0]Programming with .NET is like cooking in a McDonalds kitchen. It is full of amazing tools that automate absolutely everything. Just press the right button and follow the beeping lights, and you can churn out flawless 1.6 oz burgers faster than anybody else on the planet.
However, if you need to make a 1.7 oz burger, you simply can’t. There’s no button for it. The patties are pre-formed in the wrong size. They start out frozen so they can’t be smushed up and reformed, and the thawing machine is so tightly integrated with the cooking machine that there’s no way to intercept it between the two. A McDonalds kitchen makes exactly what’s on the McDonalds menu — and does so in an absolutely foolproof fashion. But it can’t go off the menu, and any attempt to bend the machine to your will just breaks it such that it needs to be sent back to the factory for repairs[/color:329qihb0].[/b:329qihb0]
I am concerned that the perception of FiveWin\[x]Harbour is linked too closely to xBase which is a dying relic of the 1980's and 90's. I recently saw the Programming HM Survey on the Harbor Forum ( sure you probably did as well ) :
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Gui of choice was FiveWin !!
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typical age :
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and as you can see the under 30 crowd doesn't know what the FiveWIn language is all about .. and it appears Microsoft and the Visual Studio crowd are winning over our up and growing Programming talent ... see this response:
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I would like to propose a topic for discussion at your FiveWin convention this summer to ask for input of the folks on how to get a more mainstream awareness of FiveWin and to advertise to the younger crowd! .. to let the folks ( including the CIO's ) know there are other viable programming language choices available and ( perhaps ) [b:329qihb0][color=#0000FF:329qihb0]distance ourselves from the xBase connotation.[/color:329qihb0][/b:329qihb0]
Here is ( one of many ) polls of top programming languages to learn in 2017 :
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Why not FiveWin as an Up-and-coming-language ( with a clean start ) ... because It's Just Not xBase AnyMore!
Thanks .. Your Comments are Welcome,
Rick Lipkin
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